Our first outcross breeding programs 1997

© Alwyn Hill 2007

We bought our first breeding girl Dubrova Bellaroma  in 1996 and whilst we waited for her to grow up we began to do research on Birmans behind her pedigree. At the time we had computer software that could calculate inbreeding to just 7 generations. Bella had an inbreeding of 17.79% in that number of generations. However we were very shocked to find Birmans behind her pedigree with inbreeding in excess of 30% in the same number of generations.( We calculate to 32 generations now using the  latest computer programs and that is the COI you will see at the side of each picture)  It was at this point we made the decision not to breed Birman to Birman. However it took a while to get our plans underway as we soon found out that breeding to moggies, as had been done by Ken Clarke was no longer accepted.

The First Outcross Using a Cleam Colourpoint Persian

Our Birman Breed Advisory Council notified us we had the choice of using certain Colourpoints and Persians only and so we had to find breeders who would allow us to use their stud to mate to our Birman girl. We found a cream point Colourpoint male GR CH Kellys Klaintofame and so Bellaroma  was taken to him when the time came.

The result of this mating were 5 pointed kittens some with small amounts of incomplete dominance for the gloving gene. From the litter we selected two females. Chosenhill Penny Patches and let a friend have Chosenhill Polly Peaches. 

Around this time we were very lucky to be offered a gorgeous Blue Point Birman adult male his name is Ch Dijati Bluebayou.

 He was mated Penny Patches and the result of this mating was 6 kittens and we kept a male and a female to continue our program with. These were Chosenhill Hamish a huge red point Male and his sister Chosenhill Fiona.

Chosenhill Hamish	Chosenhill Fiona.

These two are Second generation Generation cats and registered with GCCF on the Reference Register. They are registered as Birman Type and Pattern not be shown. NOTE: Cats on the reference register are not given breed numbers. 

Hamish was a nicely marked male and I believe he would have compared with Birmans on the show bench. His sister had all the correct feet markings but they were not so perfect as her brother’s. Flora was eventually mated to Dubrova Sanbucca and gave us a really stunning Blue Point boy Chosenhill Dashing Buck. Sammy as we called him was a massive boy, as all our cats seemed to be. We had the size and feet marking and look of a Birman by this time but although the cats were all fully registered we were not allowed to enter them in a show. It would be further generation before we could think of going to any shows. 

 The Second Outcross Using A Red Persian

 To have another string to our bow we decided to purchase a Red Persian Bluzee Sue Ofchosenhill. She was the most affectionate and gentle cat you could imagine. Her coat was silky soft and very easy to manage.

 We took her out to stud to Gr CH Caroona Tobitoo The result of this mating was two kittens  Chosenhill Walistock a cream self male with no white feet and his sister Chosenhill Harlequin a Blue Tortie. Both were a really good size once again.

First generation registered with GCCF on the Reference Register as Birman Type no White. Not to be shown. This registration is given they are not pointed cats but they carry the genes to produce the Siamese coat pattern and white feet.

At this point we were faced with problem, we had no female to mate with Wallistock and I met with quite a bit of hostility when I tried to purchase one.  This left me with no alternative but to mate Penny Patches from the Colourpoint line to Wallistock. It had not been my intention to put the two outcrosses together so early but there was little else I could do. The result of the mating was two kittens and I kept Chosenhill Rusty Snowball as she was the pointed kitten in the litter

She is a Second Generation  cat and registered with GCCF on the Reference Register She is registered as Birman Type and Pattern not be shown. NOTE: Cats on the reference register are not given breed numbers. 

I  mated Harlequin to Ch Dijati Bluebayou. She had 5 kittens all self coloured two blue torties and the rest were Blue males. This litter proved very interesting as every one had some white on its feet but also we saw white where we didn’t expect to see it on the stomach! We noticed that the better the feet markings were the more white there was elsewhere. Later we got know these were called “bikini patches” white areas between the back legs and between the front legs. Worse still they had lockets of various sizes too so all the kittens were sold as pets.

 However one person asked me to allow her girl to have just one litter. The person agreed carry out a series of tests I asked her to have done.  I eventually chose to re-register Chosenhill Bluetanya onto the active register for just one litter and she was mated to Chosenhill Hamish. The resulting kittens all males were one Black kitten with white feet, one Red point Kitten, One Red self and one Blue Point. The last two are pictured here.

Interestingly the white lockets had disappeared in the self cats but there was no way to know for sure about the pointed ones. We were hoping Admonlo Denim may have come back to us but the owner chose to keep them all, except the black one. They and their mother were all neutered as  planned after this litter.

Reverting back to Chosenhill Polly Peaches

She had one litter which included Aylpurrtona Kit Willow who was to come back to me. I actually let her go to Mrs Collins of Dubrova Birmans in exchange for a  kitten. Dubrova Samssu was brought to be mated to Chosenhill Wallistock and eventually the litter was born and Dubrova Parade was to come to me.

Unfortunately just before she was due to arrive here Chosenhill Hamish picked up ringworm and our cattery was thrown into turmoil. We were treating cats and kittens for weeks. It took us 16 weeks to get the clearance from GCCF and it was the longest, hardest 16 weeks I have ever spent. My mother came to help and it took all day to bath the cats and kittens whilst my husband disinfected washed sprayed everywhere to remove any trace of a spores. Sadly by the end of it all the breeder had decided that Dubrova Parade was too old to come to us but that she would mate her and I could have a kitten from that ating. The next year Parade produced five boys so it took a further year before Dubrova Foreveramber was born and  able to come and live with us. We really needed a female and all the time wasted was a real blow as we were unable to progress with the Persian outcross for such an extended period.

Dubrova Foreveramber 30.1%

Second generation Registered on the GCCF Reference Register

 During the two year wait we bred more litters from Penny Patches and Dijati Bluebayou. Including one litter of eight kittens all of which survived and Penny did a really superb job rearing them. This was the largest litter we ever had.  

 At last a new breeding queen and an Imported Stud

 In 1999 we managed to purchase a Seal Point Breeding queen Tuscarora Blue Diamond Eyes. For her first litter Sophie was mated to Dijati Bluebayou and produced 6 kittens and we kept a blue point daughter from her, Chosenhill Darling Milly.

The following year Tuscarora Blue Diamond Eyes was mated to Chosenhill Hamish and we kept Chosenhill Cressida a Seal Tortie. She had needed a C section to deliver Cressida so she was neutered at the same time. Cressida also needed a C section to deliver her litter so she too was neutered We  bred on from another of Sophies daughters, Chosenhill Darling Milly She had two litters but again she was neutered after her second C section. She had one litter with Chosenhill Dashing Buck and we kept Chosenhill Emma Louise, she too needed help delivering kittens. We tried once more with this line and mated Emma louise to Our new French stud. Sadly again her daughter Chosenhill Glycine had trouble with deliveries so we nutered her also and the line did not continue. 

Chosenhill Cressida 30.6%	Chosenhill Emma Louise 40.4%	Chosenhill Glycine 22.6%

 French stud Int Ch Nerval de L’Iris Doree  was only with us a short time but he did produce some lovely kittens.

International Champion Nerval de l'Liris Doree

For our breeding program he gave us Chosenhill Finn Macool and his younger brother Chosenhill Glenross. Their mother was Dubrova Foreveramber

 We mated Finn Macool to Chosenhill Debby Debutant who Produced Guru and his sister Chosenhill Gigi. We kept Guru His brother  was mated to Debby Debutant the following year and gave us Chosenhill Hope. Gigi and Hope were both sold for breeding. We kept Chosenhill Guru and his daughter Chosenhill Honeybunch.

 At this point we knew we needed to start more outcross programs to lower our inbreeding again and we began two more programs in 2007